I'm highly amused at the thought of traditional courting being a thing in Cephrio. Is it only the nobles, or do even the lower class and farmers do it?

Honestly it's not really come up in Ice and Snow really, so that's part of the world building I haven't had to really do much with. Everyone is like in the baby stages of relationships anyways, like Hikaru and Lantis is a thing, but at the moment it's not super serious? Fuu and Ferio have the most...serious relationship I guess? Though since Umi and Eagle are the main focus of this story their relationship isn't talked about a whole lot. Other than gossip about Fuu being Queen, though I suppose if Feiro is still considered a prince she'd be a princess, royal consort? IDK. There's some talk of Eagle and Umi's relationship, if it becomes serious being something of a hotbed of issues. But considering what happens to Eagle as the end it becomes a non issues by then really. I guess I tend to hand waive a lot of it. haha.

I'd imagine Autozam is a lot like the U.S but more relaxed about it? Or I guess if you wanted things to be interesting you could have part of the nation leading very rightwing because of all the bad shit going down there. Not that you know, it's short on political drama already.

~TRADITIONAL COURTING~

I keep changing my mind about what it involves but I think there's a THING

....................................I'll come back to this when I'm not failing to work out a presentation for work tomorrow XD

I don't hate her. She's exactly the same as Zagato, only difference is he actually violates the wishes of the person he cares for, she works towards what the person she cares for wants.

On that score I'm pretty certain she's winning.

She also at least in the manga never says anything about wanting Zagato to reciprocate her feelings, just that she wants to help him, because she loves him.

...................I mean on the one hand she's Zagato again and on the other hand she's Clef, except Clef is loyal to Emeraude's wishes and torn by it, and Alcione is loyal to Zagato's wishes and not torn by it. She puts the person she cares for before the rules.

She's a mirror to both of them, she's the dark side of Clef's devotion, she's the better side of Zagato's, and then there's Emeraude. Who throws the people away - even herself. At some point I'm going to actually sit down and write a fic which tries to pull that out and look at it,~ but probably I'll end up writing at least one of the Emeraude/Alcione fic first XDD

Quote from: Akira on October 29, 2012, 07:51:08 PM
So i read in one of the old topics how someone would love to read something related to Ferio and Umi has Best friends, here is just a thought: two wealthy families, starting with, how Umi will find a boyfriend if she is in a girls school? like Milieva said ,easy the mothers would play mtachmaker introducing both children, being Ferio and Umi but what the parents whould not know is that they dont love each other in that way, only friendship, so they use this facade to date their real loved ones, being and older man for Umi (Clef) and a girl of middle class (Fuu).

If no one else is going to write it, I might have to at some point, because this needs to exist.  Will poke the idea for a little while and see what I come up with. I do have a number of WIPs I am currently working on but there can never be enough Umi and Clef fics in the world for me.

Whether or not you believe Cephiro has a concept of marriage, you probably accept there is some form of courting or dating in Cephiro.

What do you think those particular traditions might entail?  Or what sort of traditions have you written?

Would anyone even care if I resurrect this fic?  By which I mean, pull a rewrite on the beginning to make it have an appropriate tone for the backstory that I dropped in badly years ago?

Because this is totally happening... and I made myself cry!

Just a random thought...

Hikaru's star sign is Leo: a fire sign.
Umi's star sign is Pisces: a water sign.
Fuu's star sign is... Sagittarius: a fire sign!

Why not an air sign?! Did CLAMP choose Sagittarius because of its symbol - the Archer/the Arrow?

Hello, Milady! Hello, Shiidou Hikaru (hey, I'm a Potterhead too haha)! Nice to meet you 

Quote from: Mokonalord on December 15, 2017, 09:36:15 AM
Yeah, as just about everybody has said in some way or another, Alcyone is just a flat character whose only character trait seems to be that she's obsessed with a guy who's not into her, and rather than fleshing her out, the anime just chose to double down on it.

Things they could've done to make her more interesting: Actually explain why or how she got to be so obsessed with Zagato. Like, we know she learned magic from Clef to protect Emeraude, is that how they met? Other than maybe thinking he's good-looking, just what draws her to him enough that she wants to die with him? Did he ever do anything nice for her? Did someone else hurt her? Is this the latest in a string of bad relationships (or non-relationships) that just makes her give up hope for ever having a good one? Has she always had these kind of obsessive tendencies?

Still not my least favorite, though. That spot's reserved by Sierra, for being a giant plot hole badly disguised as a character. Like, Alcyone might be one-note, but at least she's remotely plausible.

I completely agree.
Well, she is a shallow character, and that's quite disappointing, because I suppose that if she behaves like that, she must have a really tragic/troubled/creepy/very emotionally disturbed past. You can imagine a really depressing story behind her violence, her insane, unrequited love and her self-destructive behaviour.
I mean, why is she so obsessed with a man who clearly doesn't care about her? A man who is deeply in love with another woman to the point of destroying the entire world? Alcyone knows that, but nevertheless she tries uselessly and desperately to earn his attentions. She humiliates herself in vain. He treats her cruelly. In the manga, he kills her. I never disliked her, even when I was a child: I just feel sorry for her.
How did Alcyone and Zagato meet? Why is she fighting for him? Maybe she's convinced herself that even though he will never love her, at least he will admire her, and this is worth dying for. Maybe she has nothing else to live for. Maybe she's alone, she's been abandoned and she feels betrayed. She has lost something very important and she's blinded by rage and hate. Her magic is ice-based... and so is her heart.
Maybe Zagato saved her when she was in danger... And in that moment she has idealized him and clinged on to him, beacuse she was completely lost and thought that no one ever cared about her...
Moreover, what did happen between her and Clef?
Even though her dress is pretty awful (she is so beautiful in her evil/witchy way, though), I don't hate her. Because I think she's desperate, shattered and hopeless. And, most of all, she is alone.

On the contrary, Sierra is just nonsense.

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