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Magic Knight Rayearth => General Rayearth Discussion => Topic started by: Milieva on October 19, 2012, 02:23:24 PM

Title: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: Milieva on October 19, 2012, 02:23:24 PM
Honestly, this seems like something best served warm with seasonings, or perhaps cold sliced as hors d'oeurves?   

How would you eat it?  Or how is it meant to be eaten?
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: suzanami on October 19, 2012, 10:06:56 PM
I think we'd need to figure out what it is before we decide how to serve it.

Is it more cheesy or more fruity?  In taste, texture, etc etc.  Does it grow on a tree?  Does it have a rind/peel and is it edible?  Common food or delicacy?
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: The Icy Darkness on October 19, 2012, 10:27:06 PM
I am curious about this as well..

Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: Down on October 20, 2012, 12:07:00 PM
*grabs her copy of the materials collection, skips to the fruits of Cephiro without getting TOO distracted on the way*

Gea! (Or GEAR because yes all the foods of Cephiro are NAMED AFTER BITS OF CARS)

"Colour, shape, taste, all of them are exactly like cheese, but it's a fruit. Its size is about the same as a handball ball."

It's round and pockmarked like it should have swiss-cheese style holes, and it grows on vines along the ground like pumpkins!

.............................I'd guess it has a rind/outer skin which should be cut off (like the wax on some cheeses) or at least not eaten, but besides that - given it's a fruit, it might have pips/a stone as well? but, yes, hot or cold - you could eat it with pawasute (.......Power Steering) (which is bread made from the shell of Taabo/Turbo which is a nut with an almond-like meat inside a hard shell)...............

(I'd forgotten about the huge grape-things which grow underground)

(I LOVE THE FRUITS OF CEPHIRO XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD)
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: Milieva on October 20, 2012, 03:14:12 PM
Do you need a scan of that page(s?) to make notes on, or can you just let me know and I can pull the images so we can have a food info section.  I can read hiragana/katakana well enough still.  My failing is kanji again, and general translation ability.  Got to love atrophied language abilities.



And what colours of cheese are we saying it looks like.  There are all sorts.  I'm imagining a sort of yellow, but it could be different colours depending upon the plant?  Perhaps up north it's one colour, south another?

I'm putting too much thought into this.   Then again, I named a dog/fox/thing after it so I need a connection?
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: The Icy Darkness on October 20, 2012, 04:51:17 PM
I have absolutely NO Japanese skill under my belt but am very curious... So translations/notes would be greatly appreciated ^.^
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: Down on October 20, 2012, 05:02:13 PM
Quote from: Milieva on October 20, 2012, 03:14:12 PM
Do you need a scan of that page(s?) to make notes on, or can you just let me know and I can pull the images so we can have a food info section.  I can read hiragana/katakana well enough still.  My failing is kanji again, and general translation ability.  Got to love atrophied language abilities.



And what colours of cheese are we saying it looks like.  There are all sorts.  I'm imagining a sort of yellow, but it could be different colours depending upon the plant?  Perhaps up north it's one colour, south another?

I'm putting too much thought into this.   Then again, I named a dog/fox/thing after it so I need a connection?

I can make notes (I actually DID a translation of this whole page once WHERE DID I PUT IT oh well) from my copy for you to pull together with images?

The bit in double-quotes was a direct translation, it really does just say cheese. XD But there was less variety of cheese in Japan (........less variety which wasn't cubes of soft cheese flavoured like RANDOM THINGS anyway. XD Ham, pepper, chives! dairylea never looked the same again...) and mostly it was yellow, paleish, IIRC.

.....................Emmental's probably a good match, I'd think? You'd probably get regional variations based on the soil/water type/level - say stronger in dryer areas because there's less water in it............ The holes probably mean that's what CLAMP were going for, it's the Iconic Cheese Known By All? XD

...............*stares at desk* though this means I have to excavate my nintendo ds and charge it. XD PLEASE HOLD THAT THOUGHT A WHILE I'll get on it. XD

(languages you once had are at least easier to learn again than ones you've never studied, Mils?)
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: Milieva on October 20, 2012, 05:10:16 PM
Yeah, I was thinking a light yellow colour.  Gear's sort of golden now, but as a kit, I think he was about the colour of the gear Clef typically would eat, and this little squirming thing mad him think of the fruit for some reason?  Axle doesn't have a good name story there. 

Quote from: Down on October 20, 2012, 05:02:13 PM
(languages you once had are at least easier to learn again than ones you've never studied, Mils?)

I should hope so.  But then again, I pick up languages easily, and lose them just as fast.  Nice thing about Japanese is that I have learnt some things since I was small, so I do recall those easier.  *has been able to count in Japanese nearly as long as I have been able to count in English.  also still knows a few nursery rhymes*
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: The Icy Darkness on October 20, 2012, 05:12:16 PM
Quote from: Down on October 20, 2012, 05:02:13 PM

...............*stares at desk* though this means I have to excavate my nintendo ds and charge it. XD PLEASE HOLD THAT THOUGHT A WHILE I'll get on it. XD


I only just RECENTLY found my nintendo DS charger.... I had lost it in my oodles of cords in this stupid plastic bin *kicks bin* But I was VERY thrilled when i found it.
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: Down on October 20, 2012, 05:34:57 PM
Quote from: Milieva on October 20, 2012, 05:10:16 PM
Yeah, I was thinking a light yellow colour.  Gear's sort of golden now, but as a kit, I think he was about the colour of the gear Clef typically would eat, and this little squirming thing mad him think of the fruit for some reason?  Axle doesn't have a good name story there. 

Quote from: Down on October 20, 2012, 05:02:13 PM
(languages you once had are at least easier to learn again than ones you've never studied, Mils?)

I should hope so.  But then again, I pick up languages easily, and lose them just as fast.  Nice thing about Japanese is that I have learnt some things since I was small, so I do recall those easier.  *has been able to count in Japanese nearly as long as I have been able to count in English.  also still knows a few nursery rhymes*

I do okay with languages - so long as they're not FRENCH, which I can battle through reading for VERY BASIC comprehension if I have to but listening and speaking? ahahahahaha nope. Can't pronounce it. Can't understand where half the word has gone when I'm hearing it. XD (I like middle-french better!) - but once I've done the basics the griiiiiiiiiind of learning vocab (and kanji!) is something I've not attempted really outside of Japanese.

I want to start korean or mandarin-chinese, but can't find anywhere local which'll do so. (I want a lesson with a teacher so I can ask strange questions!) I can understand a few bits of each, but...... not generally helpful bits.... (my mandarin vocab: I love you/you love me; I'll kill you/you kill me; hello; greetings to the emperor; come here. DRAMAS ARE POSSIBLY NOT THE BEST LEARNING TOOL. XD)

Quote from: WaterDragonsWing on October 20, 2012, 05:12:16 PMI only just RECENTLY found my nintendo DS charger.... I had lost it in my oodles of cords in this stupid plastic bin *kicks bin* But I was VERY thrilled when i found it.

I have three chargers because I kept loosing them! XD My poor battered ds is getting on a bit now, though - it's one of the old chunky originals, I've had it since not long after they came out? And it's been my primary japanese dictionary since 2007!
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: The Icy Darkness on October 20, 2012, 05:47:38 PM
Quote from: Down on October 20, 2012, 05:34:57 PM

Quote from: WaterDragonsWing on October 20, 2012, 05:12:16 PMI only just RECENTLY found my nintendo DS charger.... I had lost it in my oodles of cords in this stupid plastic bin *kicks bin* But I was VERY thrilled when i found it.

I have three chargers because I kept loosing them! XD My poor battered ds is getting on a bit now, though - it's one of the old chunky originals, I've had it since not long after they came out? And it's been my primary japanese dictionary since 2007!

I got the lite when it first came out, but that one is so abused (note: I was 7 when i owned it. Dropped it so many times) I had to buy a new ds lite, and I've had that one for three years....

And how is your DS a translation aide?
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: Down on October 20, 2012, 08:23:41 PM
Quote from: WaterDragonsWing on October 20, 2012, 05:47:38 PM
I got the lite when it first came out, but that one is so abused (note: I was 7 when i owned it. Dropped it so many times) I had to buy a new ds lite, and I've had that one for three years....

And how is your DS a translation aide?

I've dropped mine all over the place. XD As for the dictionary thing - I have a 'game' cart which is a Japanese kanji-and-english dictionary - it's meant for Japanese schoolkids, but it's AWESOME as a dictionary! It uses the touch screen so you can write in anything you don't know the sounds for, or you can look by pronunciation, and it has a fair amount of english translations for phrases, maybe two thirds? The rest I have to translate the explanation for, but it's good practice. ^^ There are lots of touchscreen dictionaries you can buy in Japan, but they're horribly expensive - were, anyway - and though they're more comprehensive, this has pretty much everything I need! I have three paper dictionaries and the internet to extend my search when I get stuck, though. XD Usually, if the DS doesn't work, it'll be in the Kodansha Kanji Learner's Dictionary, but that's REALLY REALLY HEAVY to lug about and doesn't have the example phrases which the DS does!
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: Sidherequiem on October 23, 2012, 02:37:20 PM
being lactose intolerant... makes me wonder if they would have the same protein /enzyme structure as normal cheese?
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: Milieva on October 23, 2012, 03:30:24 PM
Quote from: Sidherequiem on October 23, 2012, 02:37:20 PM
being lactose intolerant... makes me wonder if they would have the same protein /enzyme structure as normal cheese?

I say it would be best to have the flavour/texture of cheese, but not the things that upset lactose intolerant tummies?   

Magic cheese?
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: Sidherequiem on October 23, 2012, 04:54:30 PM
If it was magic cheese, then I would eat all the cheese sticks I could. I wonder if they eat anything fried? Or would you suppose the populace would be too healthy for that?
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: Down on October 23, 2012, 09:55:44 PM
*dairy intolerant, four years and counting* MAGIC. Because it DEFINETLY SAYS that it's 'actually a fruit' which means fruit proteins, enzymes, EVERYTHING~

which gives me a 50/50 chance of eating it as long as it's cooked. XD
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: The Icy Darkness on October 23, 2012, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: Down on October 23, 2012, 09:55:44 PM
*dairy intolerant, four years and counting* MAGIC. Because it DEFINETLY SAYS that it's 'actually a fruit' which means fruit proteins, enzymes, EVERYTHING~

which gives me a 50/50 chance of eating it as long as it's cooked. XD

Exactly my feelings. I'm a lactose/dairy intolerant too.
Title: Re: How would you eat Cheese-Fruit?
Post by: Milieva on October 24, 2012, 01:35:47 AM
Quote from: Sidherequiem on October 23, 2012, 04:54:30 PM
If it was magic cheese, then I would eat all the cheese sticks I could. I wonder if they eat anything fried? Or would you suppose the populace would be too healthy for that?

OH!  That could be a fic idea there.   Teach the Cephirans about fried food.

But honestly, I don't know of a culture that cooks and HASN'T eventually learnt that deep fried food is amazing.  Then again I don't know much about culinary history.